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Two more northern fells

Yesterday I was out hiking round the back of Skiddaw in Wainwright’s Northern Fells to activate Great Sca Fell (LDW-114) and Brae Fell (LDW-134). One reason for being out and about in that area was that Phil G4OBK was planning to activate Great Calva (LDW-095) which is one of the three summits I need to complete the Northern Fells as a chaser. I’d have been less keen if the weather had been miserable, but Thursday was a glorious day, sunny but not too hot and without the breeze that can often make it icy cold on the tops even when it is warm in the valleys.

It is a long, steady plod up from Longlands and I reached the summit of Great Sca Fell around 12:30. I put up the WOTA Pole and then sat down to eat my lunch. To raise the height of the antenna I used my walking pole for the bottom section. This didn’t give me as much extra height as I’d hoped as the inner sections of the telescopic pole slid up inside the PVC tubing so I had to collapse it and just use the thickest, topmost section.

I connected the VX-8GR to the antenna to beacon my position on APRS while I ate the lunch Olga had made me. I tuned around whilst I was eating and heard a couple of distant stations. I observed their signals being desensitized intermittently. Clearly the VX-8GR receiver is not up to being connected to a good antenna in a good location.

After lunch I connected the Motorola GP300 – which has a much more robust receiver – to the antenna and began calling CQ WOTA. I worked 11 stations in all from Great Sca Fell, but they were all from the northen area as signals to the south were blocked by the great bulk of Skiddaw and Blencathra. I waited for Phil G4OBK to arrive on his first summit of the day, Bakestall, so we could have a summit-to-summit contact. I then called upon Mark MM1MPB and Colin 2E0XSD to help with my second objective of the day, which was to do some tests to see how much difference the WOTA Pole made to my signal compared to other antennas.

First I compared the signal between the WOTA Pole (which is a Slim Jim made of 300 ohm ribbon cable inside some PVC electrical conduit) and the 5/8 wave telescopic Black Whip antenna from jeepbangkok on eBay. I’d been pretty impressed with the 5/8 telescopic on previous activations but the reports from Mark and Colin suggested that the WOTA Pole was a couple of S-points better.

Unfortunately while extending the telescopic antenna to make the test I broke it! That’s the end of that, which is a pity because I’m sure there will be circumstances – such as on busy summits or rocky ones where there is no earth to drive the guy pegs in – where the telescopic would still be useful.

For an additional test I tried an 8 inch long single band helical “rubber duck” which I’d previously established to be comparable to a quarter wave whip and a noticeable improvement over the stock dual band antenna that comes with Japanese handhelds. Colin couldn’t hear me on the helical at all, while Mark’s verdict on my signal was “awful.” So the WOTA Pole is very definitely worth the trouble of erecting it and enables me to give points to stations that would not otherwise be able to hear me.

I packed everything up and made my way over to Brae Fell which was half way back to the car by another route. I set up the antenna and finished the rest of my coffee. A lone skylark, perhaps the first of the year, circled calling overhead. I began calling on the radio. Again there were plenty of takers. I worked 12 stations in all including another summit to summit with G4OBK/P on Great Calva.

So a successful day out (apart from breaking an antenna.) I just need to work someone on Mungrisdale Common and Souther Fell to complete the Northern Fells. They have been activated before: unfortunately they are not workable from home due to being of only moderate height and on the other side of Skiddaw. As they are probably the two most boring hills in the entire Lake District they are not often visited so I may have a bit of a wait until I can claim my Wainwrights On The Air Northern Fells chaser certificate.

Boosting the VX-8GR on APRS

A few weeks ago I did an analysis of the audio levels of different APRS radios and lamented the low level of the audio transmitted by the Yaesu VX-8GR. An Italian ham wrote to me enclosing a copy of a document he obtained from Yaesu showing how to increase the transmit deviation. I decided to give it a try. You can find a copy of this document in the Files section of the VX-8R Yahoo group, but I will describe the process here.

Note that performing this adjustment will increase the transmit deviation on speech as well. There is no way to increase the packet deviation independently. Note too that while you are in the alignment menu it is possible to change other settings as well by accident. This may be undesirable, especially if you don’t have the test equipment to realign the radio properly, so be careful and perform the adjustment at your own risk! Finally, note that these instructions will work only for the VX-8GR. There are instructions for accessing the alignment menu of the VX-8R on the web. They don’t work for the GR and these instructions don’t work for the R. I have no idea if any of the instructions work with the DR.

To avoid entering the alignment menu accidentally, Yaesu has made accessing it quite difficult. First you must enable the CW ID (main menu item 16) and program a password AH041M into it. The manual explains how to do this. You must then set the transceiver to single band mode on the A band, in VFO mode (not memory) on a frequency of 430.000MHz. Now switch the radio off.

Press and hold the HM/RV key and turn the VX-8GR back on. If all the above steps were carried out correctly the radio should start up in alignment mode showing the first alignment setting. Rotate the control knob clockwise a few clicks to select the MAX DEV adjustment, then press the V/M button to select it. A pointer symbol should appear to show that adjustment is selected.

The control knob now adjusts the deviation setting. Make a note of the original value in case you want to reset it, then turn it up to 254. Yes, I know this sounds like a CB “screwdrivers to the max” tweak but as you can see from the spectrograms below, even at that setting the packet deviation won’t quite match that of the Kenwood rigs. Press the V/M button again to exit the adjustment, then press HM/RV to exit the alignment menu. The radio will restart in normal operational mode. Don’t forget to clear the CW ID once you’re happy with the new setting.

The spectrograms below show the difference made by the adjustment, with the Kenwood TH-D72 shown as a reference.

As you can see, the peak deviation of the high tone is now within 1dB of that of the Kenwood, though the Yaesu still has more low-frequency roll-off. Nevertheless, this is as good as it gets with the Yaesu. If you still can’t hit the digis you think you ought to, perhaps you’d be better off with a Kenwood.

As I said earlier, this deviation adjustment makes your audio louder as well. You, your local hams or your local repeaters might not like this. The VX-8GR has a “Half Deviation” menu option which will reduce the deviation back to approximately what it was before this adjustment, but it works across the whole radio and not per band, so you can’t have the wider deviation only on the APRS band.

It is interesting to note that in the Yaesu alignment document the deviation alignment is performed at 435MHz. I found that the deviation on 70cm is higher than it is on 2m. This appears to be a consequence of the way the radio is designed, as there are not independent deviation adjustments for the two bands. But this does explain to an extent why the deviation on 145MHz is lower than it should be.

Where I live, 70cm is completely dead and 2m is quiet so we can operate using 25kHz channel standards with no problems. Therefore I have not found this adjustment to cause any adverse effects and it certainly has improved the reach of my APRS packet beacons. Your mileage may vary.

Knott entirely as planned

Yesterday was one of those clear, blue, sunny, still, cold days that make you think it would be a criminal waste to stay inside. I decided to try another Wainwrights On The Air activation using my WOTA Pole, which had been rebuilt since Sunday’s disaster. My intention this time was to visit the summit of Knott, LDW-082, followed by nearby Great Calva, LDW-095. I took the VX-8GR for APRS but this time I also took the Motorola GP-300 to use for the activation which I hoped would avoid the receiver overload problems experienced with the Yaesu.

The weather may have been bright, but I was not. Sometimes I seem to get periods of a few days when although physically I may be awake, mentally I am not. Fortunately I hadn’t driven far before I realized I had not put walking boots in the car, so a complete disaster was averted. That wasn’t the only silly mistake I was to make, though.

I parked at the head of Mosedale and started walking up the Cumbria Way path. I approached the structure you can see from the starting point, which turned out to be a large garden shed! The path seemed to be taking me near to High Pike so I thought I would make that my destination and visit Knott on the way back.

As I approached the “shed” I heard people making contacts with another hilltopper, Gordon G0EWN/P on Grey Knotts. I took the VX-8GR from the rucksack and made several calls using the helical whip as he completed each contact but he always replied to someone else. After ten minutes of standing around I decided to shoulder the rucksack again and continue climbing while holding the radio. I called several times when Gordon listened for “any more calls” but he was not hearing me. I don’t know why that was – another case of a radio front end being overloaded by high signal levels on the fell-top perhaps?

I reached a grassy summit topped by a tiny cairn and checked my position and realized that I was further from High Pike than I thought. I also then realized that I didn’t have my walking stick! I must have left it by the “shed” when I stopped to try to work Gordon! I turned round and went back. I retrieved my stick, but having wasted half an hour I decided to abandon High Pike and carry on to Knott instead.

I arrived at Knott still in sunshine with clear blue sky, the distant summits slowly disappearing in the haze. Although it was calm enough to try using the WOTA Pole supported in my rucksack I decided to use the guying kit from the MFD that I’d brought with me in case of windy conditions to avoid the trouble I’d had on Sunday. That cost the antenna some height, but on the plus side it allowed me to operate sitting down which I was glad of as I’d been climbing for over 2 hours by this point. Whilst I ate my lunch I connected the VX-8GR to the WOTA Pole and it was picking up APRS packet bursts from as far afield as Norway and Holland. VHF conditions were obviously up.

When I finished my lunch I connected the GP-300 to the antenna. This was when I discovered I’d brought the wrong speaker-mic. One of the hazards of owning too many hand-held rados I suppose! It was not a major problem of course, as I could use the radio without it. I made several contacts from the summit of Knott the most distant of which was G6ODU in Ormskirk, Lancashire, not a bad haul from the North Lakes.

The wind was so calm my Olympus voice recorder logging device was able to make a high fidelity recording of the activation. In case anyone is interested to hear what it sounds like at the sharp end of a WOTA activation here is a recording of about 8 minutes of activity. The loud, punchy audio from the Motorola GP-300 really helps so you can hear both sides of the contact equally well. Some of the quality has been lost compressing it down to an MP3 file of reasonable length but it’s still almost like being there!

I would have liked to stay on the hill longer to see what else I could work, or even move on to Great Calva to activate that, but a thick bank of mist was approaching and I didn’t want to be up there in mist. There are few clear paths on these infrequently walked grassy summits and without any landmarks to aim for it would be easy to get lost. Even though the visibility was clear I still went the wrong way off the fell and hit the Mosedale to Skiddaw House path much closer to Skiddaw House than to Mosedale. That cost me an extra 3km or so of walking to reach the car, by which time the mist had arrived and the sky was a grey murk.

This was long walk for only one summit activated. I could have made more if I’d had my wits about me and things had gone according to plan. But on a day like this it’s good to be out however many summits you activate!

Braap analysis

One problem I have noticed with the PIC TNC I recently built is that it is less tolerant of different packet signals than any of my radios. It decodes my two Kenwood transceivers just fine but it will only decode the VX-8G at a specific audio level that is impossible to set when using the fixed output of many radios. And it won’t decode my WX-1 weather station at all.

My Kenwood TH-D72 won’t decode the weather station either. However it is the VX-8GR I am more concerned about. With the volume of the packet channel turned up, it’s braaps sound a bit thin and weedy compared to those of the Kenwoods and other radios I hear over the air. I thought that I would try to analyze the signals to see if this would give me an idea of what was causing the problem.

I used Spectran, the only free software I know that will do audio spectrum analysis. The receiver was the old Kenwood TH-205E, which being over 25 years old had IF filtering wide enough not to cause any deviation limiting. Each capture was made at the same volume level so the signal levels shown should represent the relative signal deviation.

Because packet bursts are fleeting it took a few attempts to capture the screen at just the right moment. But eventually I obtained plots for each of four radios, including the weather station. Incidentally I am puzzled that the spectrograms show a comb of frequencies. I thought 1200 baud packet was FSK using two frequencies, 1200Hz and 2200Hz. I have seen this before when using sound card decoder software for packet but I have always been puzzled by it.

The top two plots are for the two Kenwood radios. They look pretty near identical. In the absence of any test equipment to actually measure the deviation levels I have to assume that these two radios were correctly set up at the factory and represent the ideal signal to aim for. It is interesting that the highest frequency which I would have assumed to be 2200Hz actually peaks at about 2235Hz. The peak closest to the lower frequency of 1200Hz is actually 1185Hz. But there are six peaks at intervals of about 150Hz between the two and some spaced the same distance going below the lower frequency. I’m sure there’s a reason for it.

If you look at the plot for the VX-8G the top peak is at about 2230Hz and 5dB weaker than the corresponding peak of the Kenwood traces. The other peaks are lower still with the one at about 1180Hz around 8dB lower than that from the Kenwood. Some VX-8 users have complained about low packet deviation of the radio but have been told by Yaesu that it is within specification. As far as I know there is no adjustment to increase it. You would have thought from this that I would need to increase the audio level to get reliable decoding of the VX-8 compared to the Kenwoods. In fact, I have usually had to reduce it a little. As previously stated, the volume setting at which the PIC TNC will decode the VX-8G is quite critical, whereas the Kenwood signals would decode over quite a wide range of audio input levels.

When you look at the signal from my WX-1 weather station, which is modulating a Radiometrix VHF transmitter module, the peak signal levels are close to that of the Kenwoods. The lower frequency components are in fact a couple of dB stronger. However, it’s clear that the frequencies are too high. The top peak, which should be 2200Hz, is about 2290Hz. And the one closest to 1200Hz is about 1230Hz. When setting up my FoxTrak APRS tracker I had to set the frequencies using the PIC calibration routine as low as they would go before my TH-D710 would decide it, so clearly it is the frequency offset that is responsible for the packets not being decoded. The WX-1 firmware unfortunately does not have a calibration procedure. Either the PIC clock crystal needs to be slowed down a bit or I need to make a change in the source code to shift the frequencies and recompile the firmware.

But it’s the VX-8G that most bothers me most. I wish there was a way to boost the level of its packet modulation and make it more like the Kenwoods.

Foul!

Following a tip from the VX-8R Yahoo group I ordered a high capacity 2000mAh FNB-102Li battery for my VX-8GR from a dealer in Spain that was selling them for EUR 28.50. The website couldn’t calculate shipping to the UK so I received an email asking me to order two connectors the cost of which equalled the cost of the shipping, making a total of EUR 36.80 – still much less than the price of the Yaesu product even when ordered from Hong Kong. After this was sorted out the battery was with me five days later.

My pleasure at the speed of the shipping soon turned to dismay. Yaesu chose to make the VX-8 belt clip attach to the battery pack. I don’t know whether the accessory batteries bought from Yaesu come with a belt clip to attach to them but this one doesn’t, so if I want to interchange this battery with the one that came with the radio one of them will have to be used without a belt clip.

But worse was to come. The battery will not charge in the drop-in charger while it is attached to the radio! The charger has a platform which, as owners will know, is deeper than the radio with the stock battery – presumably to accommodate the thicker higher capacity version. But with this battery attached, the front of the radio fouls the lip at the front of the charger where the status LEDS are, preventing it from dropping the last tenth of an inch necessary for the battery contacts to make contact with those on the charger.

Is this a general problem with the FNB-102Li and the VX-8GR (in other words, is the GR thicker than the DR and my charger doesn’t allow for this?) or is it just this third-party battery that is thicker than the one from Yaesu and causing the problem? I’m having to take the battery off the radio to charge it, but that rather spoils the convenience of having the drop-in charger.

A matter of timing

I’m finding it hard to love the new Kenwood TH-D72. Despite the fact that it has a more sensitive GPS, a proper TNC that you can interface to computer APRS or packet software and is firmware upgradeable, I’m steadily coming round to the opinion that the VX-8GR is the better performing, more usable radio.

Things I don’t like about the TH-D72 is that it is bigger and heavier, has a screen that gives far less information at a glance than the corresponding screens on the Yaesu and has poorer ergonomics. I have also been harbouring a suspicion that its packet modem was less sensitive. Today I think I discovered the reason.

I recently built a Fox Delta weather station that outputs AFSK packet directly into a radio. I noticed that although my Kenwood TM-D710 and my VX-8GR decode it’s S9+ packet bursts the TH-D72 didn’t. I thought it might just be a case of adjusting the deviation but I tried the weather station on two different radios adjusting the audio level from nothing to definitely clipping and could not find a setting at which the D72 would decode anything.

Recently I set up a low power APRS repeater in the shack. It is a sound card TNC (TrueTTY) driving a low power UHF radio (the FT-817ND) running into a dummy load, which is connected to the aprsg gateway software. This gates everything that is going on in APRS within a specified radius to UHF so that I can monitor activity and reply to messages using an APRS HT anywhere I am in the house. This has been working fine with the VX-8GR but last night I forgot to switch it off and the battery was dead so I tried monitoring using the TH-D72 instead. Nothing was copied!

Again I tried an entire range of audio levels into the radio but while the VX-8GR and the TH-D710 both decoded the packets over a wide range of settings the D72 didn’t decode anything. I was using TrueTTY into my USBlink home-made VOX-based digital interface. I wanted to try different software (AGWPE) and a different sound card but Windows got confused having different USB sound devices connected to it and it is also a dog at handling serial ports. I have real serial ports occupying COM2 to COM5, a pair of virtual ports mapped between COM8 and COM9, and other USB serial devices I have used in the past have been assigned to COM1,6 and 7. AGWPE can only use COM1 to COM9 and trying to change the USB serial device to use one of the three currently unused ports in this range resulted either in Windows complaining that the port was in use even though it didn’t show in Device Manager or the application saying that the port did not exist even though it did show in Device Manager. Eventually things seemed so screwed that I restored back to this morning and gave up.

Having restored the system and checked that everything worked again one more idea occurred to me. TrueTTY allows you to specify the exact sample rate used by the sound card, to compensate for timing errors. Instead of 11025Hz I tried 11000Hz and while the D710 and the VX-8 still decoded the packets the D72 still didn’t. I then tried 11050Hz and lo and behold, the D72 started decoding!

It’s impossible to make a suggestion that there is something wrong with a radio in the owners’ groups on Yahoo as so many people can’t bear to consider the fact that something they bought is anything less than perfect and will come up with any alternative explanation they can think of. So I’m sure that the problem I have described will be blamed on the AFSK modulation being slightly off-frequency which, of course, it is.

However in the real world a radio will be used to receive transmissions from people whose modulation is off and don’t know it or may not even have any way of adjusting it. A modem that is more tolerant of these deviations from the precisely correct will decode more signals than one that expects the modulation to be spot on and in that respect the VX-8GR is by far the most easy-going and most sensitive of all the APRS radios.

It’s just frustrating to hear braaaps and not see them decoded, so I think the Yaesu is going to be the one of these two APRS hand-helds that I hang on to.

Successful outcome

I finally solved the problem with the cable I was trying to make to interface my VX-8GR with the computer, as described in my last post. As I had begun to suspect, the trouble was caused by the 2.5mm jack plug not fitting properly in the VX-8GR data port socket.

As suggested by one of my readers, I tried the cable in the COM port of the TH-D72. Although I couldn’t figure out how to make data appear on this port, I did see some output when turning the TNC on and off which suggested my cable did work.

I then tried it back on the VX-8GR and used my oscilloscope to look for anything digital. I didn’t see anything. I then tried another 2.5mm jack with the sleeve off so I could get the ‘scope probe on the solder tags and with a firm press it went in with a click. I now saw -5.6 V on the TX pin – clearly an RS-232 signal level.

The jack I originally used had a plastic sleeve or cover and the diameter of the base was just a bit too much to allow it to go all the way in. One with a metal sleeve had a slightly smaller diameter base. The metal sleeve itself interfered with inserting the jack, but I could put the plastic sleeve on that jack and it would still go in. So that, finally, is what I did, and I now have a VX-8GR PC cable that works. It also works with the COM port of the TH-D72 should I find a use for that.

As a ham and electronics enthusiast I don’t believe in buying things I can make myself, but sometimes making it yourself can turn out to be more trouble than it is worth!


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