Icom 7610 ver 32?
Hey all you Icom fans out there, as we all know, the IC-7610 is a great radio, as I have one and am super pleased with it. BUT there seems to be something fishy going on south of the border in the U.S of A. A large Amateur radio supplier in the U.S. called GigaParts is now advertising an IC-7610 ver 22 and an IC 7610 ver 32, but the catch is that the version 32 is $600.00 U.S. more. On GigaParts site, once you click on the ver 32 7610, you are informed it has "enhanced performance".
Things just don't add up.......
- Icom's website says nothing about a version 32 or lists any enhanced improvements?
- Icom just introduced the IC-7760, so why add internal competition?
- To increase the rig by $600.00, which is worth at least a QST page introducing this?
- Dayton or whatever it is called now just pasted without mention of this, and believe me, these things are known well in advance at Icom or whoever.
What does add up is the U.S. tariffs on electronics from Japan of 25%. I am not saying the price jump is a tariff, but it is one explanation. You may ask why Icom just does not just say it is a threat; my answer to that is the big baby bear south of the border does not take kindly to that. Icom may just add a few improvements (that in the past were free updates) and call it "enhancements". In time, let's see if Kenwood and Yaesu add "enhancements".
What are your thoughts on it......















Well in the Soviet Union they claimed not to have inflation, but now and then a product would be repackaged with a new color or some other minor change and sold at a higher price. Smoke and mirrors. I think your guess on the tariff is a good one, Mike. Mr. “the other countries will pay for it” seems to know as much economics as he does science, history, geography or anything else that requires more than animal cunning.
Good morning Richard and thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment. We shall see how the coming months unfold.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Greetings Mike, VE9KK…
Your 25% Japanese tariff theory doesn’t add up either:
Figuring in the tariff at 25%..
(note the version)
ICOM IC-7610 22 Regular price = $3,499.95 – Ref.: HRO & GP
Plus 25% Tariff = $874.99
Total with Tariff = $4,374.94 – nope!
ICOM IC-7610 22 Discount price = $3,399.95 – Ref.: HRO & GP
Plus 25% Tariff = $849.99
Total with Tariff = $4,249.94 – nope!
ICOM IC-7610 32 Discount price = $3,199.96 – was never at this price.
Plus 25% = $ 799.99 – not the actual difference.
Total plus tariff = $3,999.95
ICOM IC-7610 32 Discount price = $3,999.95 – comparing versions
ICOM IC-7610 22 Discount price = $3,399.95
Difference = $600.00
Equates to added = 17.64731% – increase, not 25%
In other words, $3,399.95 + 17.64731% = $3,999.95 (actual increase)
OR, put another way, $3,399.95 + 25% = $4,249.94 (not the price)
With the addition of a $100.00 discount ‘coupon’ that ICOM
is now offering, this is often a tall tail sign that either
they are discontinuing the model OR, an updated model is
coming and they’re wanting to clear out ‘old’ stock.
I can only hope that this site’s text reply box keeps
the formatting correct as the original since there is
no option for justified text font.
Cheers,
Gary
Good morning Gary and yes the post showed up just fine. Thanks for taking the time to comment. First off your calculations for the tariff was made on the retail price. The tariff would be calculated on the import price not the retail price. The typical imported price for the IC 7610 before import fees, shipping cost and tariffs and then the retail markup is added is anywhere from 2000.00 to 2200.00. At the higher price at the import dock of 2200.00 the tariff would be 550.00. Then add the fee for parts replacement and you have the new increased price. But Gary don’t take my word for it. On the groups.io for the Icom 7610 Ray Novak from Icom was contacted at the Huntsville ham show. He confirmed that the 600.00 was due to tariffs and a small portion to parts replacement.
Unfortunately for the U.S. the tariffs are coming home to roast and the Americans are helping to pay for the “Big Beautiful Surplus”
73 Gary and have a good weekend.
Mike
VE9KK
Ham Radio Outlet is also now listing this “IC-7610 32” which in my mind lends some legitimacy. What I do not know is if this is truly a new/different model or is just a firmware update that could be applied to any IC-7610.
Good afternoon Bob, and thanks for taking the time to leave a comment. It is just very weird that Icom has increased the price of the 7610 and is calling it a v32? Unlike the IC 7300, now an MK2 and a brochure listing out all the upgrades. The word from Icom is some component updates on the 7610: no specs and no nice colour brochure. Now, as I have mentioned before that at the Huntsville hamfest, Ray Novak did say the increase is due to tariffs and some component changes. It just seems very odd to me that the price increase has not come with any big rollout from Icom about improvements like the 7300 MK2….I would expect IC 7610 MK2…but no.
73,
Mike
VE9KK
Hi, my regards to all readers, I am a very happy user of the original IC-7610 with the latest 1.4 FW version and the DPD added, no complains so far in two years of use.
My personal opinion and not trying to argue with anyone about this subject is that there is not any substancial “enhancement” in the new “32” version abd its just a market policy to attrack more customers who will not feel disapointed about the new 4 grand price. I checked Icom webpage and there is nothing about this new 7610-32.
I think its all about an invention or a trick of US manufacturers to justify the raise on the price.
110 db RMDR ? Look for a brochure of the original 7610 many years ago and it will say the same RMDR of 110 db, so they are saying anything new.
Good morning Hector and thanks for taking the time to read the post and leaving a comment. I too am very pleased with my 7610 now 7 years old. I agree as I too have looked at the specs and they seem the same.
73,
Have a great weekend
Mike
VE9KK
Yes, tariffs are on the import price, not retail price, and as a reminder, that is the price Icom Japan (the mother ship, so to speak) charges Icom America for the product, not what Icom America charges retailers or what retailers charge customers.
There are no new features and no notable performance enhancements in the V32 model of the IC-7610, that’s why you can’t find any Icom marketing material listing any new features or performance enhancements.
Ken
Good morning Ken and thanks for taking the time to read the post and leaving a comment. Yes this being a post from over a month ago more has come to light. As items come to the U.S. if there is a tariff on the item then the importer pays the tariffs. It is up to that person if they “eat” the tariff or pass it along. Very true Ken it is not Icom charging the customer but when a retailer shows version 22 and then version 32 at 600 more the customer assumes improved rig. It’s unfortunate retailers are being bullied into “eating” tariffs or coming up with creative smoke screening.
Have a great week Ken
73,
Mike
VE9KK